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 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:43 pm 

New Mexico is facing a water crisis. We use more than we replenish. In order to defuse the coming water wars, please stop mindless economic development. No more development for its own sake. Connect development to water use. Require a percentage of water used to be returned to the aquifer through water treatment. Outlaw water grabs. Stop the fraudulent registration and declarations of water rights with the Office of the State Engineer.

Petition Background
In Sierra County, NM, we are watching a mining company reopen Copper Flat Mine. It wants to take 1/3 of the total groundwater used in the county, pollute it, and evaporate it all into the air, permanently depleting our aquifer.

Sign online at http://signon.org/sign/water-for-a-future-in

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:00 pm 
The petition has over 600 signatures in a week of being posted online.

Signers have suggested a number of actions which roughly divide into two different concerns. One is to expand the group, and the other is to achieve our goal beyond the petition itself. I'll deal with the first issue first.

Facebook and Twitter. We have a presence on Facebook, but we could do more. I can't get a Facebook account because someone stole my email address and registered an account with it. I don't understand how that can work, but Facebook bars my address. Those of you who have accounts, please post the petition if you have not done so already. But I understand that there are groups in Facebook you can join, and then you can circulate the petition through those groups.

We have no presence on Twitter, and we should. Can you do that? Do you know someone in a Twitter group that can float the petition there?

Paper petitions are effective because people who read the petition very often want to sign immediate rather than remember to go online to do that. We have paper petitions circulating and posted on bulletin boards in T or C and Las Cruces. Can that be expanded?

As for the second issue of pushing to get what we want, a signer who is pleased to be called "a concerned citizen whose commitment to clean water for the future left me no other choice than to sign the petition and contribute to the cause," wrote:

<< looking at it strategically I would first
put in place three people that share my concerns and have credibility in
specific fields:
* academia, to get the intellectual heft for debate and to look a
future situations
* businesses and municipalities: corporate entities that need water
and would like to minimize the amount of their resources demanded by
outsized competition and legal wrangling.
* the electorate, as in the specific part of the population that
actually votes.
The general populace will best be enlisted by exposure to your initiatives
through these three avenues of credibility.>>

Think about it. Do you know someone to contact?

 Author: crow
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:38 pm 
Perhaps you can tell us about PAWA and your relationship to the organization and maybe at least a first name to address you.

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:00 am 
PAWA stands for the Percha/Animas Watershed Association. It was formed some two years ago to resist the reopening of Copper Flat Mine by the Canadian venture company Themac and its NM shell corporation New Mexico Copper Corporation. We deliberately have no organization, no structure, no hierarchy, no duties, no boundaries, just relationships and aims. Different people in PAWA do different things. We put out letters and op ed pieces to local papers. We follow the mine's permitting process and try to intervene where we can. I think that we were instrumental in the Office of the State Engineer invalidating Themac's water rights; though that process was pretty opaque. We played a major role in the BLM's Scoping procedure for the Environmental Impact Study. And, we are gearing up for both the BLM's and the NM Mining and Minerals Division public hearings for the final mining permit. I'm Max. I and some others study the water issue for PAWA.

 Author: Ceilidh
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:35 am 
PAWA - about your email. Have you considered getting a gmail account? Costs nothing, and you can have multiple email addresses, as we do; keeps too much junk from accumulating in one account, plus I use one account for certain purposes like my volunteer work. You may be able to get back into Facebook that way. Just a thought.

For the petition, I noticed just this past week that a group had an almost full-page add in the Silver City Daily Press about the 'secret, back door' meetings being conducted by our 'wonderful' county commissioners. Would an add in one of our daily papers be a way to go to get out the word even more?

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:27 am 
We are now over 900 signers and still growing.

The number of ideas of what we can do to achieve our goal is growing too.

1. Call your legislators to get them to actually read the petition and not throw it away. Here are the links for finding them: the NM State Senate search is http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/leg.aspx?T=S

NM Representatives search is: http://www.nmlegis.gov/lcs/leg.aspx?T=R

Governor Martinez's phone is: 505.476.2200.

2. Ads in local papers sounds good to me, but first I would suggest short simple letters to the editor. You just have to use the text of the petition itself without labels or headings. A simple letter like the following:

<<Dear Editor,

[text of petition]

If you can support the opinions above, please send them to the Governor and the Legislature by signing the water petition online at http://signon.org/sign/water-for-a-future-in.

Thank you, a cause can have an effect.>>

We have signers all over NM, so we ought to be able to get wide publication.

3. This morning I googled "NM environmental groups" and found a listing of 15 orgs and their sites. I am going to each site and emailing all the officers and boards about the petition. Can anyone help me by dividing the labor? http://www.eco-usa.net/orgs/nm.shtml I'm starting at the top of the list and doing 5. Will someone else take the next 5, and then someone can do the last 5. Ask the people not only to sign as individuals but to get their organization to publicly support the petition.

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:32 pm 
The list of things you can do to help this cause continues.

1. You can send copies of the petition to your town council and your county commission. This is easy to do since you just have to find ther email addresses online. In much of NM, these local political bodies are pushing for economic development. Let them know we want water considered. Inform them of the simple fact that groundwater has been diminishing for decades, that the State Engineer has declared many areas in NM to be in a situation of dewatering.

2. There are other formal groups we can enlist. I started with environmental groups, but there are all kinds of civic groups to approach: universities and colleges, student associations, water associations. Google, and find names and email addresses. We are almost 1000 people, so we should be able to get the word out.

3. Last Summer the New Mexico State University in Las Cruces hosted a water conference which was entirely devoted to the shortage of water and the coming crisis. Senator Tom Udall introduced the conference with a graph of rainfall in NM over the last 2000 years. What we call drought turns out to be the norm. Contact Senator Udall at jeanette_lukens@tomudall.senate.gov. The whole conference is online. Just google NMSU Water Conference. Another person who follows the NM water situation is Representative Steve Pearce: jonathan.shuffield@mail.house.gov.

4. If you go to the Water Conference site, you will find the program of the conference, and at the end a list of all the participants. You can send them all the petition. Their emails will be usually listed at the site of the organizations they represent. Many of these people cannot take a political stand because of their jobs, but they should know about your presence.

Please, send out or post the petition.

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:00 pm 
Listen to the podcast Weekly Word from the Santa Fe Reporter; it's an interview with water commenter Coco Harris on the almost 40 bills before the legislature right now, many of which will worsen the water situation in NM. http://www.sfreporter.com/santafe/blog- ... arris.html

And, go to Coco's site: http://cocoposts.typepad.com/cocoposts/ ... l#comments

We are over 2000.

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:05 am 
The Water-Culture Institute is sponsoring a talk this Wednesday March 6, entitled, "What Constitutes Ethical Use of Irrigation Water? Perspectives from the Andes, the Mediterranean, and New Mexico." This (free) talk will be at the REI Community Room (use the main entrance and go to the back of the store, 5:30-7:00pm.
Speakers: (1) Thierry Ruf, a geographer with IRD (Research Institute for Development),in Montpelier, France, has conducted detailed field research on both the social and technical aspects of irrigation development in the Andes (Ecuador) and the Mediterranean Basin (Morocco, Egypt, France). (2) David Groenfeldt, an anthropologist and Director of the Water-Culture Institute, studies the cultural values and ethics underlying water management policies.
The Topic: A clear sense of agriculture's value to society is a key element for developing a water strategy. What kind of crops, cultivation practices, and rural communities do we want our scarce water to support? How can our policies about water support our goals for the agriculture sector? Thierry Ruf, a French geographer and irrigation analyst, will discuss the socio-cultural roles of irrigated agriculture in other water-stressed regions (Highland Ecuador, Morocco, Egypt, and Southern France). David Groenfeldt, director of the Water-Culture Institute, will discuss implications for New Mexico, and the audience will also be invited to share views.

For further info, contact the Water-Culture Institute at 505-470-3554.

The Santa Fe Water Awareness Group's next meeting will consist of a presentation by Gail Giles on this session's NM Water Legislation. Come find out what went down and where it's going! Wednesday 20th March at the Oliver La Farge Library 1730 Llano Street at 5:30 PM. Come early so we can start on time as we have to be out by 7 PM

The Wednesday 17th April meeting will include a presentation on Water Harvesting and will be at the Natural Grocers meeting room 3328 Cerrillos Rd 5:30 - 7 PM

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:04 am 

Sean Williams <seanw@ghostranch.org> sent you a message about your petition, Water for a future in New Mexico ( http://signon.org/sign/water-for-a-future-in ):

Hi Max,

My name is Sean Williams and I am a Marketing Assistant at Ghost Ranch in Abiquiu, NM. I came across your petition and immediately thought that you or those you know may be interested in a workshop that Ghost Ranch is putting on April 5-7. It's an Earth Day Celebration that looks precisely at the same issues that you have put forth in your petition: water rights and cooperation. We have a great lineup of instructors as well, and you can learn more about it here:
http://ghostranch.org/earth-day-celebra ... ting-over/

Thanks for your attention, I hope you or some people in your circles choose to attend! If you have any questions don't hesitate to contact me.

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:09 am 
Dear People of Mother Earth and Father Sky - The Gente de la Madre Tierra y
Padre Sol,
First I want to say thank you for who you are and all you do
for the preservation of water, for organizing, for getting petitions out,
for standing up for the greater good of all life, our Mother Earth and for
the generations to come.

Just some thoughts...

In addition to our NM water concerns and many other issues we face in
"north america" called Turtle Island...
I have been paying attention to "water issues" in our southwestern region
and Canada.
Kyl and McCain started in Arizona last year, so I am not surprised to see
legislation this year
in New Mexico. The Bills that are being introduced come from all the
Demican-republicrats, that are playing with the oil and mining boyz. And if
you don't know... these oil and mining corporations
are both "Canadian and US" corporations that have no boarders or boundaries
for what they want.

The water "issues" are *far more critical*, than most are aware of
due to media black out, and the lack of effort to apply our own
self-determination to educate ourselves via grassroots media. Elders are
now saying "it is time to use media responsibly for the greater good of all

As you may know the sacred site of San Francisco Peaks is currently being
desecrated by the manufacture of SEWAGE TREATMENT WATER SNOW.
Treatment water is NOT clean water, and still contains pharmaceuticals and
toxins that the process is unable to filter out of the water.

*I personally DO NOT want treatment water going into our aquifer!*
There are also the issues with the Little Colorado, the Confluence,
the KXL-> threat to the Ogallala Aquifer, the threat of fracking in Las
Vegas and more oil and gas production that Ben Ray Lujan and the past Sec
Interior Salazar have touted as great accomplishments.
Now - we have the attempt to divert water from Northern NM....
We also have the military fuel spill that is NOT being talked about,
but reports say it is near reaching our aquifer...
and parts of the Great Lakes are drying up....
People need to realize that the Great Lakes, are the MOTHER WATERS, of
"north america".
In the same way rivers, streams and lakes are part of the cycle of life of
our waters,
so are our oceans....and the Great Lakes (ocean) comprise a network of
arteries - water blood lines-that are specific to north america.

I have spoken to *Elders*, and they have clearly said that within 20 years,
it will be dry here,
if we as a species do not make changes...period.
Everything that was told in the Hopi Prophecy has come to pass...should I
doubt Elders now?
They have given warnings for longer than I am old...for generations in fact.

*Our rivers, streams and snow replenish our aquifers and Springs, the
Springs are Sacred*
*to our cultures and Life Ways.* *It is time to put Traditional Indigenous
Natural knowledge and law*
*that is 100,000 years old, at the forefront...we can no longer wait around
for "modern science" to
"prove" what we already know. We must find allies, and work together.*
I am in agreement that WATER is and will continue to be a
priority, right next to non-gmo food production !!!!

This said, as a nortena I find that making meetings in the south
about these issues almost impossible.
I therefore ask that the organizations, and people, come together to
agree to organize a Water Conference THIS YEAR, to INCLUDE
representatives from Hopi, Navajo, all the Pueblos
the Acequia Assns, etc etc etc....
(Maybe there is one already being planned? if so, news needs to get out via
FB connections)

ask Occupy Santa Fe to help livestream the conference...
get a videographer to make youtubes, and contact our local grassroots radio

The goals as I see them are:
1 Water Preservation, Water is Life.
2. Moratorium on "progress" as usual, unfettered building, oil, mining and
nuclear production and pollution. (Off-set with $ our government allocates
for harmful building, instead to retro-solar conversion)
3. Unity locally and regionally that water "bills" attempting to be passed
by US and Tribal government/corporate collusion, will be met with peaceful
resistance from the People.
4. A unified, clear and loud voice that we ARE at the "table".
and 5. I am of the opinion that if these harmful bills get passed, if the
oil and mining boyz and corporation's continue railroad their harmful
agendas, that are being supported by our "courts"...
it will take millions of people to come out, to stop it.

I also agree about the use of FB and Twitter (I am not a twitterer)
This said we are still only reaching a small number of people.

Due to my very busy schedule, I am sorry that I can not do more.
I will continue to rally for local regional and international peaceful
through petitions, people on the front lines, seek to find others who will
media cover the "legislative sessions"...advocate for media production,
After all the "evo-ecolution will not be televised" - unless we do it.

Sincerely yours,
Grandma Anonymous



VIDEO: http://youtu.be/aSwL7jxM5KQ

About the Fuel Spill...are there any public representatives/media that will
be at these meetings?

Feb 2013
http://www.kirtland.af.mil/shared/media ... 22-079.pdf

2012 Article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/2 ... 37913.html

TrueSnow...they are also on FB as "Save the Peaks"



Save the Confluence
VIDEO: http://youtu.be/cRP8WKcb9uE
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-pre ... and-canyon

About SB2109

More current Navajo water issues
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.c ... nag-148052

Havasupai tribe was not consulted: how much water used for this

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news ... 03-07-2013

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:33 am 
"Dear Governor Martinez and New Mexico Legislators;

"Over 3400 people in New Mexico have signed the petition Water for a
Future in New Mexico. In that petition, we asked you to connect
development with the issue of water scarcity."

"We ask now that for every bill that comes to committee or to the floor of
the Legislature, someone asks, "How much water will this project take?
Will this legislation result in greater or less need for water in NM?
What is the cost of this legislation in water?" The legislator who asks
these questions and considers the answers will be acting for us, the
constituency. Thank you."

If you think this way of avoiding ill-considered or blind or solely
profit-driven development can help preserve our water, please sign "Water
Petition II".

Click here to sign your name:
http://signon.org/sign/nm-water-petitio ... by=7036112

Thank you, a cause can have an effect, so please spread this second part
of our message around. Email friends and family. Hang it on Facebook and Twitter.
Send it to your city council and county commissioners.

 Author: crawdad
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:24 pm 
Thanks for all of your community's work on the first petition. I hope everyone will sign the second one. With the continuing drought in New Mexico, which is drying up reservoirs and lowering groundwater levels, all new development projects should be subject to scrutiny in terms of water usage. Please consider signing this state-level petition developed by our neighboring activist from Hillsboro.

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:09 am 
Sunday morning, the 17th, signers of Petition II left these and many more comments:

<Humans and animals can survive without oil; we can't survive without water

<Our obligation is to be good stewards of our water for the generations to come behind us

<Colorado already has similar water checks, only more restrictive, and seem to be doing well with them. The proposal seems consistent with our doctrine of Prior Appropriation, too

<Water is more valuable than gold, and legislation reflecting this truth is what we all need.

<Water is not an ideological issue and the signers of this petition cannot be dismissed as anti-development. We all drink and use the water and the cost to everyone in the community of wasting or misusing it is real and pressing. Without carefully conserving water resources, the most attractive new developments will suffer along with established parts of our community.

<Water studies from 15-20 years ago are being used to base decisions on. They are not accurate, especially in Southern Santa Fe County and Southern New Mexico. Water availability needs to be reassessed and taken seriously into account all over New Mexico.

<How grateful I am for this petition. On this watch, let's greatly improve the water situation in NM instead of letting ourselves be raped by greed. Together, we can accomplish this! Heart felt thanks.

<Most critical resource for state survival

<Water is the only substance humans, animals and plants can drink. We cannot keep on treating it like a commodity, especially in a state where water is so scarce.

<Imagine the difference it would make if we asked these questions. If we looked at the whole impact instead of just the dollar value we could revolutionize the way we do business and live our lives. We could be a true leader in the SW and change the way our country considers the use of our natural resources.

<The Waters of NM is not the Legislators nor the Governor's it is the present and future children of NM. Please don't sell out our children's resources

If you agree, help send these messages to the legislators. Ask others to sign.

http://signon.org/sign/nm-water-petitio ... by=7036112

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:16 pm 
Amigos Bravos "Water Matters" Lecture *Tuesday, March 19, 5:30pm
Santa Fe Community Foundation*

The Amigos Bravos "Water Matters" Lecture in March will feature *Professor
Ellen Wohl*, of the Warner College of Natural Resources at Colorado State
University, speaking on *Beavers: Architects & Engineers – Our Last Best
Hope for Healthy Headwater Streams in the Face of Climate Change*.

Direct and indirect human modifications of headwater streams, wetlands, and
wet meadows in the form of timber harvest, flow regulation, and beaver
trapping have resulted in a loss of physical complexity and the "sponge
effect," which, in a healthy watershed will retain water and release it
slowly throughout summer. Loss of physical complexity and the "sponge
effect" has meant the drying of our fertile valleys. Beavers provide an
excellent model for how to restore healthy headwater streams. Wohl will
focus on a case study from Rocky Mountain National Park that applies to
changes that have occurred from New England to the Pacific Northwest and
from Florida to the Southwest, as well as in other countries.

Ellen Wohl is a professor of geology at Colorado State University. Her
research focuses on river form and process. Wohl received her PhD from the
University of Arizona in 1988, and she has conducted field research on
every continent except Antarctica. Much of her current work examines how
historical changes in mountain rivers of the western US have simplified and
homogenized these rivers, resulting in a loss of biodiversity and ecosystem
health. In addition to numerous technical papers, Wohl has written the
non-technical books Virtual Rivers (2001), Disconnected Rivers (2004), Of
Rock and Rivers (2009), Island of Grass (2009), A World of Rivers (2011),
and Wide Rivers Crossed (in press).

The Amigos Bravos "Water Matters" Lectures are hosted on the *3rd Tuesday
of each month at 5:30pm*, and are free to the Amigos Bravos membership and
the public.

The Santa Fe Community Foundation is located at the corner of Halona and
Paseo de Peralta, between Old Santa Fe Trail and Acequia Madre. (If you are
driving/walking on Paseo de Peralta toward Acequia Madre from Old Santa Fe
Trail, Halona and the SFCF will be on your right). Parking is available on
Halona Street. For more information, call 575-751-3669 or 505-988-9715.

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:14 pm 
Nancy Decker is asking the Democratic Party of New Mexico to adopt the following resolution:

that we end the silence surrounding climate-change and instead dialog about this greatest crisis seen in
knowable history
that the Democratic Party of New Mexico (DPNM) requests that our legislators consider the
EARTH FIRST when permitting, licensing or regulating industry
that the DPNM requests that our legislators create laws that provide financial incentives for the
development of environmentally friendly technologies
that climate-change science be taught in our schools
that the DPNM creates an education committee to hold forums and host screenings on the impact of
climate-change and on how we can lessen our impact on the environment
and that the DPNM consider climate-change the most important issue of this age and promote
actions, industries, legislators and legislation that protect our planet”

For a full text of her resolution, contact her.

Nancy Denker • nancy@focusink.com • 216 Dartmouth SE • ABQ NM 87106 • 265-3497
Ward 18D • Pct 244

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:12 pm 
Legislation on water use in subdivisions:
http://protectnewmexico.org/bills/adequ ... -supplies/

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:55 pm 
Here follow notices of some upcoming events (out of many) and a request:

1) Sunday at 11 AM at Collected Works Bookstore: see below:

We will be distributing free copies of the book "What's the Big Deal About Water" by the late Tonita d'Raye at this event.

2) Request: On the weekend of the 5th - 7th April at Ghost Ranch, Steve Harris, Jack Loeffler, Dr. Rina Swentzell and Estevan Arellano are presenting a workshop entitled "Water’s for Cooperating Over". "This program will examine historic instances in which societies have come together to share nature’s most precious resource"

The Lorien Foundation is planning the Santa Fe Global Water Festival 2015 and is seeking to send Raphael Weisman and Glenda Frye to this important workshop to network, to share about this cooperative venture and explore future collaborations with the presenters and attendees. We are applying for grants but currently have no funds. We are requesting scholarships (usually up to 50% of the fees) from the Ghost Ranch Foundation. However, to cover the balance, we are asking for donations to cover the fees, board and lodging expenses for the workshop. A tax deductible contribution of $10 or more (or even less) sent to The Lorien Foundation c/o Raphael Weisman, 1929A Arroyo de las Cruces Rd, Santa Fe NM 87505 will help us to attend this workshop. Thank you.

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:08 pm 
NY Times on NM water:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/27/us/ne ... wanted=all

 Author: PAWA
PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:17 pm 
The Santa Fe Water Awareness Group is offering the following presentations
at its upcoming meetings in April and May, both at 5:30 PM at Natural
Grocers 3328 Cerrillos Road.
*Wednesday April 17th - Reese Baker,* owner of *The RainCatcher* will
discuss and share about Water Harvesting
*Wednesday May 15th - Gary Schiffmiller*, who works in surface water
monitoring for the State of NM will present his "Confessions of a Fish
Squeezer", how he monitors contamination in the rivers, lakes and other
surface bodies of water by dissecting and examining the fish that inhabit

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