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 Author: EGGreen
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:49 am 
What do we do with the tons of bales of plastic piling up in warehouses? Haul them to the landfill? Wouldn't it be better to re-form some of it into building blocks--use them as retaining walls, foundations, etc. ? (whatever they're suited for, if not for housing for the poor. At least, it would be housing .) I understand SMB's rebuttal about the gasses emitted, the poor processes, but in the meantime, (see question at beginning). Any better solutions?????

Create a great day! Gale

 Author: gorwest
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:31 pm 
There is an enormous amount we could do as a community, but first we need to figure out how to truly function at the community scale again.

Local investment and support is the key. Doing things takes money, or the equivalent. Our present culture is good at "investing" in Wall Street, but very poor at investing in our communities.

We have the knowledge and talent here to process our own trash into useful stuff, but to do it will require financial backing and sustainable commitment, including operations and business management. Who wants to be a leader?

 Author: bobstockdale
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:13 am 
How long does it take for the aggregate of all the products, including packaging, that walk out the door at Walmart to make it to the landfill? Is there anything that walks out the door at Walmart that is serviceable or repairable?
The most accurate place to measure our gross domestic product is at the entrance to the landfill. As the competition and greed of contemporary capitalism makes quality ever more unavailable, we fill the landfill ever faster.
The costs of transportation and handling for a town as isolated as Silver City means that recycling through the major recycling centers will never be a viable option. If we're to recycle, it will need to be on a local level. Talking about it is the first step, but in order to do it, we have to actually do it. All the good intentions in the world ain't worth two dead rats.
Cardboard is one of the most common forms of wood on the planet. It's actually an excellent construction material with many uses. Some of the highest quality bicycles are made with cardboard. Around the world, laminated cardboard is being used to make major beams for gymnasium sized buildings.
The most important thing we can do about plastic is to quit buying it and convince our neighbors to quit buying it, but it's already here in massive quantities, and it can be recycled locally. Google 'local plastic recycle' and you'll find lots of stuff about simple open sourced inexpensive equipment for local plastic recycle. Most of the proposed methods for recycling plastic just kick the can down the road. We need to be careful to recycle plastics into products that can be recycled again and again.
One of the main reasons so little plastic is being recycled is that the difficulties in sorting out the many kinds of plastics and the contamination of labels and leftover contents make for an inferior and troublesome feedstock, so manufacturers prefer new material. Another problem is that plastic is an integral part of most oil refinery design, and, without substantial restructuring, the refineries can't operate without producing it.
Sorting our trash is one of the most overlooked and important components of recycling. We currently dispose of a lot of things we don't know how to recycle, but as we put our minds to it, we're gradually finding ways to recycle more of our waste stream on an efficient local level. The first step is to use the immediate flow, but as we scale up, we'll be able to mine the landfill; but only if it's sorted and stored instead of homogenized, poisoned, and filled with dirt the way we do it now. Contemporary waste disposal methods are extremely short sighted. If we plan for the future, we'll sort our trash now, even if we're just storing it for the future.

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